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From: calanan@fstrf.org (Michael C. Calanan)
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Subject: Re: Chameleon 4.0 opinions wanted
In article <2q8d3i$48l@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov> ryan@singollo.gsfc.nasa.gov (Ryan Simmons) writes:
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>From: ryan@singollo.gsfc.nasa.gov (Ryan Simmons)
>Newsgroups: alt.winsock
>Subject: Re: Chameleon 4.0 opinions wanted
>Date: 4 May 1994 14:56:50 GMT
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>In article <2q6rreINNh6l@uwm.edu>, whizkid@oingomth.uwc.edu (Chris Schumann)
>says:
>>We just purchased Chameleon 4.0 at work, and it didn't work as it was.
>>The patch disk didn't ship with it, and we downloaded that today.
>That figures. But they probably had a million copies manufactured all at
>the same time when 4.00 was released, so that's what you got.
>>Anybody else using this package?
>Yup, I do. In fact, I've used Chameleon for years. Since way back to
>version 2.00. I've helped them find a lot of their bugs.
>>We've got a custom Windows app that requires a winsock.
>Frankly, this is why I really like Chameleon: They seem to have one of the
>most stable winsock.dll files around. I have never had any problem with
>winsock. I use a lot of public domain software (ws_ftp, WinVN, WinTalk,
>wftpd, etc.) and they all work great with this winsock.dll.
>As for some of Chameleon's applications, well, there you run into problems.
>Their newsreader, NewtNews, is so slow that it's useless; their ftp client
>works well, but I prefer ws_ftp for its features; their ftp server has
>problems and works inconsistently. If you don't use these applications
>much, then no big deal.
>But on the plus side, I'm constantly NFS mounted to two IBM RS6000 computers
>and I *never* have problems with Chameleon; their mail program is first
>rate; they've added a gopher client that works wonderfully; and their telnet
>app is second to none (now that the patch is out, that is)! To me, those
>are some of the most basic IP apps, and so having them work well is *very*
>important. And most of all, installation and setup where so easy I thought
>I had done something wrong! Can't say that about FTP Software's PC-TCP!
>They also have some apps that I've never used. I don't print over a network
>so I don't know if the network printer stuff works (I've read where people
>have had problems, but who knows...); I don't write my own scripts, so the
>script editor is of no value to me; finger and whois I guess work OK, but I
>don't really use them; and I don't do any network admin stuff, so the SNMP
>is meaningless. Another downside is if you need to maintain net connectivity
>in DOS (which I don't), then you have to get a second package from them.
>Chameleon is 100% Windows DLLs.
>So, all in all, I give NetManage a B. Some things are A+ (NFS, Mail, Telnet,
>installation and setup), one is F (NewtNews); everything else is around a B.
>>Does Microsoft have one?
>Don't know.
>>chris
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